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What would be the significance to Muslims if the Sign of the Eclipses, as mentioned in the Sayings of Muhammad, occurred again during the claim of another person to be the Imam Mahdi ?

Dated: 19/12/1986

Location: The London Mosque

Language: English

Audience: General

What would be the significance to Muslims if the Sign of the Eclipses, as mentioned in the Sayings of Muhammad, occurred again during the claim of another person to be the Imam Mahdi ?

Sir, in connection with the signs of eclipse, those who are waiting for Imam Mahdi, if their Imam Mahdi appears and these signs occurs, again he cannot get any assistance from this tradition to prove his… Even if he does get, why are you so worried? You should be so stingy, you should say, if these things appear, we will also believe in him, you know, no harm. I mean that this prophecy is complete in itself because Huzoor said, Hazrat Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam said, that lam takuna manzo khalkis samawati wal-larsin. No, no, but there you are wrong, totally wrong.

I was afraid you were going to take that position. What he said was, in the presence of reclaimant, this has never happened before. He never said that this eclipse did not occur in the month of Ramadan in the same dates ever before. He could never have said it because it is wrong. I mean that if it has already happened in the presence of Imam Mahdi once, so if another Imam Mahdi comes… No, then the conditions would be the same. The conditions would be the same. If another Imam Mahdi appears and these signs happened as narrated in the prophecy, then again it will not prove him.

Well, if he… I understand your point, what you mean to say is, that then Ahmadis would say, then he will be addressing Ahmadis. The non-Ahmadis have no problem. They will say the previous one was false, so it has occurred only once. So the problem is limited only. What you are trying to prove to them is, that no one would be able to believe in him. That is wrong, that is what I say is wrong. Because as far as the non-Ahmadis are concerned, they would take this position, that this has happened many a time.

But what Rasul-e-Karim sallallahu alaihi wa sallam said was, that this would not happen in the presence of an Imam Mahdi, claimant to an Imam Mahdi. Yes. That’s right? Yes. So they say because we have already rejected Mirza Sahib as not being true, so this has happened for the first time, that in the time of a true Mahdi this has happened. Then what would be your answer? Never thought of it before, I think. So don’t take a wrong position, don’t be overzealous. Once it is enough, it is proved, whatever may happen in future, the future people will face that problem. It’s not our problem.

What we know is this, that according to Huzoor-e-Akram sallallahu alaihi wa sallam’s prediction, this has happened, and only once.

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